29 Oct 2006, Comments Off on More on THAT cat meat comment

More on THAT cat meat comment

Author: Helen

Let’s get this straight right from the get go: I am not an apologist for Sheikh Al-Hillaly. But neither am I going to sit idly by while the usual suspects start up with their concern trolling.

Concern trolling is a behaviour we all know and love. A common example here is when right-of-centre commentators, who either couldn’t give a stuff about womens’ issues or are actively antifeminist, suddenly come over all concerned about the “treatment of women”, specifically by Men of Middle Eastern Appearance. They then claim that “feminists” are “silent” on this topic because they’re muzzled by their leftie inability to criticise any other culture.

I say bollocks.

Not only because Muslim men and women across the land reacted immediately, superbly, to tell this guy to pull his head in and to say he did not speak for them.

Because if you think Mr Hillaly-sack-of-shit is Robinson Crusoe in his blaming of rape victims for their lack of womanly modesty, or insufficient body covering, or simply being out of the house between sunset and sunrise in the wrong place without a male escort– and his obscene and hurtful language– then you simply haven’t bloody well being paying attention to the utterances of a whole lot of non-muslim men – and women, I have to add. In the mainstream media, on the internet, on buses and trains, wherever people gather and have an “aint it awful” session about this and that.

(As Kaz Cooke once pointed out, nurses, schoolgirls and nuns are going about in garb commonly used in porn fantasies and other “naughty” narratives. The hussies. They only have themselves to blame.)

“Yes, but she shouldn’t have been out at that hour, dressed like that,” (or alone, or drunk, or whatever), is a much-loved staple of Australian / English / US conversation as much as it is in Iran or Turkey. Some people think that you shouldn’t claim “equivalence” between someone like Bishop Hollingworth blaming a rape victim and the Sheikh’s much more extreme comments. Bollocks to that, too. Hollingworth is just better educated in a Western background, and better able to couch his sexism in a form that won’t frighten the conservative horses.

If you don’t think the Judeo-Christian traditions have any form in treating women as unclean instruments of Satan, as Daryl Kerrigan would say, yer dreamin’. The same day, there was a report on a new Victorian survey on attitudes to violence, including sexual violence, and the release by Werribee schoolboys of a DVD of them sexually assaulting and urinating on a young girl. And it’s well worth reading this excellent recent essay on Orcinus on the growing misogyny of the Right and its relevance for non-Muslim society.

Comments (0)

  • Tim says:

    Absolutely spot on, and thank you for introducing me to the term “concern trolling”.

  • phil says:

    Don’t disagree with you, maybe the sheikh just provides some allegedly religious ‘justification’ for what is far too common a view in Australia. The sheikh, however, has been making a mockery of Australia’s broader freedoms and values (sorry if I am sounding a bit righty on this) for fra too long. In this instance, there should be limits to our tolerance. At base, we are non-believers (infidels, whatever) who in his view are inferior. That is not on.

    BTW, as you have used the phrase, what is a ‘get-go’? What have we got, and where has it gone? Sorry to be snarky.

  • Helen says:

    Look at the wingnut Republicans in the US though. Who was the guy who said he MIGHT approve of abortion, if the person was raped AND they were a virgin AND they had been severely beaten up, otherwise not?
    Hillaly isn’t making a mockery of Australia’s freedoms and values so much as he is making mockery of himself. And he is free to do so Just because this out of touch, older man thinks we should lock women up in burquas doesn’t mean he is going to remould society in that way. he doesn’t have that power. Being in a free society means you can come out with all kinds of crap like this – and we’re free to condemn him, and he has.

    I’m more worried about Mrrs Howard and Ruddock’s plans for our broader freedoms, myself.

  • Laura says:

    Another vote of thanks for the phrase concern trolling.

  • & it aint just the ladies – I particularly enjoyed a response from teh christian right in the US to the ‘revelations’ about Foley’s winning ways with the pages. Yes it was all the pages’ fault – they led him on. Presumably by being all-american teenage boys. Very christian i must say.

  • susoz says:

    Phew, thanks for saying all this, couldn’t agree more. Saw in a paper today that the Vatican radio station had a staff meeting to find out whether women staff were virgins. Not much different, qualitiatively speaking.

  • Joe in Australia says:

    “Muslim men and women across the land reacted immediately, superbly, to tell this guy to pull his head in and to say he did not speak for them.”

    I very clearly recall many Moslems saying that he was misquoted, or quoted out of context. Then his full speech was published, and there was some embarrassed silence, but now his critics are being blamed for attacking Islam. With the benefit of hindsight, do you now think that Australian Moslems have reacted superbly?

    ““Yes, but she shouldn’t have been out at that hour, dressed like that,” (or alone, or drunk, or whatever), is a much-loved staple of Australian / English / US conversation as much as it is in Iran or Turkey.”

    I’ve heard people say things like that, but until now I have never, ever, ever heard anyone suggest that a raped woman should be put in jail while her rapists should go free.

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